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The Malibu comes in five flavours with three names. There is the base model Malibu LS which starts at a very reasonable $22,995, followed by the LT model which comes in two different trims: 1LT and 2LT. the 1LT adds a few minor things to the base LS while the 2LT adds a considerable amount of equipment including power seats, alloy wheels, power windows and power adjustable pedals.
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What does this mean? It means for once a car company is offering their fully loaded vehicle with a four-cylinder engine — wow! Typically in this vehicle segment if you want leather, alloy wheels, sunroof etc., you are stuck with the six-cylinder engine. Seems like GM realizes something nobody else has: some people like their luxury and fuel economy.
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Of course, my tester is the V6 model; hopefully mated to the six-speed transmission it will not be too hard on my wallet at the pumps either.
When I first stepped behind the wheel I had a flashback to my time in the Saturn Aura XR I tested back in December of 2007. The interior colours and the layout seemed identical at first. A quick zip into memory lane — otherwise known as the Saturn Aura photo gallery — confirms my initial feeling. The Aura garnered praises from the industry when it was released and so too has the Malibu; not much of a coincidence when these vehicles share a platform and many parts.
2008 Chevrolet Malibu LTZ
MSRP as tested (including destination): $33,610
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The interior layout is not only very stylish but comfortable, and the gauges are extremely easy on your eyes. My passenegers noted, though, that the gauges look like they have a pink hue to them. Perhaps a little, but they certainly look white on blue to me. Regardless, they are very easy to read.
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Front seating is very comfortable, with power adjustable pedals and large seats. The seat belt latches squeak as they rub against the leather seating if you move around, which is quite annoying. Also, they feel somewhat loose and floppy as they are mounted on a wire rather than a solid metal bar.
Rear seating is very generous. I noticed a comment from a reader on Greg Wilson’s Malibu LT Review claiming they found the seating tight in the rear. This reader must be very tall, as I find rear seat space to be extremely generous, and from the outside, you can clearly make out the size of the rear doors, which are above average in length.
Trunk space is also fairly generous, although the rear folding seats do not fold flat and the opening is not the largest I have ever seen. There is also a cheap foam piece to cover the metal behind the seats that just seems out of place. Also notably missing are auto-up and down controls for any of the windows other than the driver’s, and grab handles. These are small items but things I expect in the $30,000 price range.
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When I drove the Aura, I wrote: “The brakes are uninspiring; scary actually. At first, I was afraid I would never stop. I have gotten used to them, although they still feel completely muted.” After reading what I wrote it all came back to me: I remember actually being scared of the not being able to stop in the Aura. Thankfully, the Malibu is not the same. The brakes are great — they are sporty-feeling, they grab quickly and feel reassuring.
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The six-speed transmission is extremely good and shifts nearly seamlessly. The 3.6Litre V6 engine, which produces 252hp and 251 lb-ft of torque, has power nearly everywhere and at anytime but so far fuel economy doesn’t seem to be its strong point.
In the handling department, the Malibu feels like it can hold its own in the mid to large size sedan category. The stability control, though, is very aggressive and cuts in on some corners that I drive at a normal pace — nothing exciting. I attempted the same corner with the stability control off with no issues. The traction control, on the other hand, is a little slow to engage and does allow for some wheel spin before activating.
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Fuel economy, though, is somewhat disappointing; as I drove the vehicle this week I could watch the gas gauge dropping, and with the price of fuel up in the $1.30 a litre range, that was disconcerting. It turns out I averaged 11.5L/100km for the week, the sad part being that I was very gentle on the throttle all week, so the result is disappointing.*Rating out of 5:
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June 21, 2008, 11:45:59 pm
I was just responding to your most erroneous post that your dealer actually had; and the locate your malibu part of GM's website shows 25 LS's available to my local dealer ,25 4 cylinder LT's available but only 4 available 6 cylinder LTZ's and ,surprisingly to me, only 3 hybrid malilbu's
There is nothing erroneous about that statement GM's site shows that many Malibu's available to my dealer which I assume means as it has in the past are in a reasonable range for a dealer transfer (I am guessing about a couple of hundred clicks) not that they were on their lot
Got exact same numbers when I punched in the Malibu search inventory thingy for Hal Wright in Owen Sound.
http://www.halwrightchevroletcadillac.gm.ca/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+InternetRTRApps.AboutUs?dealer=85828&lang=en
Oddly as I noted previously the Vehicle search for the dealer you linked does not show the exact same numbers as you claimed. If my Claim was so erroneous why would you then claim to have seen the same numbers Also your claim that GM screwed up by making far to many V6 models to 4 cylinders is proven false by the search feature on GM's site. I feel fairly confident that the only erroneous statements here have been yours.
I fail to see how claiming information, you first try to claim supports your claims, when shown not to support your argument, is suddenly erroneous information, helps your argument. I'm guessing you weren't the debating champion for your school.
June 22, 2008, 01:03:07 am
There is nothing erroneous about that statement GM's site shows that many Malibu's available to my dealer
You inferred that they were at your dealer. They are available to any Chevy dealer in southern Ontario it seems. The exact same ones. They're probably sitting in the Toronto Marshalling Yard as we speak. However, that is a really sparse supply.
which I assume means as it has in the past are in a reasonable range for a dealer transfer (I am guessing about a couple of hundred clicks) not that they were on their lot
There is no reasonable range on dealer trades. It's simply based on the desire to sell a car. My associates will go to Ottawa for a dealer trade with a single trailer.
Oddly as I noted previously the Vehicle search for the dealer you linked does not show the exact same numbers as you claimed.
I broke down and phone Ted Wright, the owner's son. They have 7 Malibus on their lot despite all that crap on the GM website as reported by you. Call him yourself. He won't mind.
Also your claim that GM screwed up by making far to many V6 models to 4 cylinders is proven false by the search feature on GM's site.
Sure you can say that now, but at launch and for the first few months the only units were loaded V6s when small dealers were lucky to get a one.
I feel fairly confident that the only erroneous statements here have been yours.
Dude, don't dither. Just say this instead "I know for a fact that your statements are nonsense", even if you don't.
June 22, 2008, 01:28:46 am
There is nothing erroneous about that statement GM's site shows that many Malibu's available to my dealer
You inferred that they were at your dealer.
Ahh!! I see the problem now. If "25 LS's available to my local dealer (which is the actual GM text as you must know since you claim to have gotten the same numbers on the website for your local dealer earlier), infers to you that there are 25 LS's on their lot then I have to guess you are functionally illiterate.
You want a definitive statement. Here's one for you When you said
Got exact same numbers when I punched in the Malibu search inventory thingy for Hal Wright in Owen Sound.
http://www.halwrightchevroletcadillac.gm.ca/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+InternetRTRApps.AboutUs?dealer=85828&lang=en
You were telling a lie and don't like being caught, so are trying to muddy the waters with these circular arguments. If you checked your local dealer on GM's site you wouldn't have gotten the same results and later wouldn't have to claim that I was inferring anything when this difference in numbers was mentioned as not supporting your argument.
Now that I've satisfied myself that you incapable of the truth I'm going to ignore you as the troll you are
June 22, 2008, 01:53:55 am You were telling a lie and don't like being caught,
Is that a pot and kettle type of statement?
so are trying to muddy the waters with these circular arguments. If you checked your local dealer on GM's site you wouldn't have gotten the same results and later wouldn't have to claim that I was inferring anything when this difference in numbers was mentioned as not supporting your argument.
Honestly, I have absolutely no idea what your talking about. You punch in any Chey dealer and inquiry as to availability and the lame excuse for a website supplies the same list, almost to a car, that is available to that dealer and every other Chevy dealer. So those Malibus are NOT at those individual dealer's stores. Just AVAILABLE to be purchased by those dealers for sale to whomever is looking at that GM site. It's stupid unless you could buy thru the GM website and bypass the dealer which you can't.
Consequently, the supply is sparse which I suppose is a good thing for GM. In contrast, there are 30,000 unclaimed Sonatas sitting in Alabama as of 2 months ago which is essentially a disaster.
Now that I've satisfied myself that you incapable of the truth I'm going to ignore you as the troll you are
I'll miss ya.
June 22, 2008, 08:10:56 am
There is no reasonable range on dealer trades. It's simply based on the desire to sell a car. My associates will go to Ottawa for a dealer trade with a single trailer.
The GM website operates on rules. One of those rules is a maximum number of results returned on a particular search. Guess what? The maximum number is 25.
Sure you can say that now, but at launch and for the first few months the only units were loaded V6s when small dealers were lucky to get a one.
You're nuts, as most trolls are. The 12 Malibus my dealer had in December were made up of 2 V-6s and 10 4-cyls. Once again you're plling statements out of your arse.
But we do, not that facts make any difference to the deluded like you. Give it up troll-boy; every time you post something you dig yourself into a deeper hole and make yourself look even more ridiculous, if that's even possible.
June 22, 2008, 08:55:31 am Please people, some of are trying to follow this thread but are using the ignore button in order not to be subjected to someones crap. Everytime you reply with quoted text with have to painfully read this all over again, kind of defeats the purpose!!
June 22, 2008, 08:54:03 pm Everytime you reply with quoted text with have to painfully read this all over again, kind of defeats the purpose!!
Dude, don't let anyone tell you that you aren't on the ball!
June 22, 2008, 09:17:38 pm
You're nuts, as most trolls are. The 12 Malibus my dealer had in December were made up of 2 V-6s and 10 4-cyls. Once again you're plling statements out of your arse.
Dude, you had your chance to post pics earlier in the year on your test drive. Sorry, no pics = just another online fantasy.
But we do, not that facts make any difference to the deluded like you. Give it up troll-boy; every time you post something you dig yourself into a deeper hole and make yourself look even more ridiculous, if that's even possible.
How did you like those Impala numbers. Them's wicked facts.
Here is another fact for ya. I went back to the GM site to check out the 25 limit thing and I started looking at the prices for the 4 cylinder LTZ (assume the 6 speed auto but no reference to it) with leather and roof. The lowest price is $34,000. plus $1250 PDI/Freight.
Holy cow, no wonder I don't see many of them. That's a ridiculous price.
http://apps.gm.ca/app/GMCanada/NewVehicleLocatorDetail.do?nav=1&cta=saulist&lang=en&search_year=2008&search_nameplate=1&search_nameplate_nm=Chevrolet&search_make=Malibu&search_model_designator=1ZK69&search_body_style=LTZ&search_offer_id=&search_mktcd=&search_postal_code=M3B1J6&search_retailer_name=&search_preferred_retailer=&search_pkgcd=&search_cta=&search_url=http%3A%2F%2Fgm.ca%2Fenglish%2Fvehicles%2Fbuick%2Fallure%2Findex.jsp&vins=1G1ZK577284220500%7E1G1ZK57708F280909%7E1G1ZK57B18F283080%7E1G1ZK57B48F282988%7E1G1ZK57B58F281235%7E1G1ZK57B58F289982%7E1G1ZK57778F188101%7E1G1ZK577784218919%7E1G1ZK577884218671%7E1G1ZK57B48F268413%7E1G1ZK577184202778%7E1G1ZK577584221396%7E1G1ZK57798F286708%7E1G1ZK577484220711%7E1G1ZK57768F288691%7E1G1ZK57708F271384%7E1G1ZK577X8F286863%7E1G1ZK57778F154465%7E1G1ZK577484216531%7E1G1ZK57B08F281661%7E1G1ZK57B08F284303%7E1G1ZK57B48F281792%7E1G1ZK57748F286034%7E1G1ZK57B28F283556%7E1G1ZK57B28F288367%7E&veh_count=25&veh_index=22&dealer_cd=95539&veh_vin=1G1ZK57B48F281792&EXT=&ENG=&TRA=&OPT=&PKG=&INT=&reqType=1&newveh_print=icon&ComponentName=
June 22, 2008, 10:08:31 pm
Well they made 15,792 in May, 2008, so that would confirm that they got off to a really lousy start. Over 7000 dealers in the USA alone and only 6017 cars at launch.
dumbplanning, particularly considering all the hype that the Mailbu was generating in the media. BTW, it looks like they still produced 3385 of the old turkeys in October/07.According to GM, Impala deliveries for May 2007 where 35,665. Impala deliveries for May 2008 were 23,803. That is a negative difference of 11,862. So 15,792 2008 Malibus minus the 11,862 fewer Impalas just illustrates that in the eyes of GM buyers the Malibu is the new Impala. They certainly aren't taking the Camry and Accord buyers.
http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/84/84530/sales_production/May08Deliveries.pdf
Anyways, I can understand why your sooooo not likeing the new Malibu
I don't have anything against it. It's a much better Impala no question.
it looks better (yes this is subjective but its pretty much a consensus)
What consensus is that? From ppl here that don't buy it.
and for 2008.5 it has a better 4cylinder driveline that makes more power and gets better fuel economy than the Camry.
Who says? All I know is that to get a 6 speed in their 4 cylinder it currently runs one $31,500 plus F&PDI. Good luck with that. I'll wait till Wing tests the afore-mentioned. My own opinion is that the 6 speed GM is using in the V6 won't work well with their 4.
Hmmmm is it really poor plannning by GM to launch the Malibu at a slow rate to ensure quality of the units it produces? Maybe they learnt from the negative reaction to the new Camry's that were terrible when Toyota messed up its launch! isn't it 'poor dumb planning' on Toyota's part to launch a not-ready-for-market product? I think so. Heck even Toyota's love child CR agrees with me.
Poor launch = Toyota's quality control not Chev's slow ramp up controlling quality.
Why wouldn't people cross shop the Malibu and the Impala? they overlap a decent amount price wise but the Malibu is an all new design and gets better fuel economy. If you really don't need the space, why not get the newer model with better fuel economy?
So long as GM is selling EVERY malibu it makes it is doing just fine - even if it isn't taking every Accord and Camry owner.
Can you actually offer proof that the Malibu was produced with very few 4cylinder models initially or is it just more of your 'made up facts'? PS did it hurt sales at all? they seem to sell every one they make. So your point is, exactly?
Here are the 'facts' about the Malibu:
http://wardsauto.com/ar/malibu_powers_sales/
The average retail price of Malibu sales is slightly more than $21,000, Catton says, with the base LS model accounting for better than 25% of sales. The mid-range 1 LT and 2 LT models, combined, account for 50%, while the top-of-the-line LTZ is running over 18%. Some 70% of Malibu customers are buying 4-cyl. engines.
hmmm 70 percent of Malibu buyers are buying 4cylinders.
and based on the percentages of models that people are buying - there are going to be alot of 2.4/6spee auto combos out there starting in 2009 - in addition to the g6 and Aura's that both will have it as well - as it will be available on the base g6, standard on all Auras and available on ALL LT and LTZ Malibus.
That should cover pretty much all price ranges.
Who says that the 2009 2.4/6speed auto gets better fuel economy and makes more power than the Camry 4cylinder powertrain? GM does:
http://media.gm.com/us/chevrolet/en/product_services/r_cars/r_c_malibu/09index.html
read it and see-> 22 city 33highway and 169 hp
far better than what the 2009 Camry offers with its, using your words to describe a powertrain that is out of date, 'dinosaur' powertrain.
PS this has been proven to you in the past, and it is SAD that you still don't have a clue, but the 6speed auto used with the 2.4 is NOT the same as the one used with the 3.6
June 22, 2008, 10:09:11 pm
Well they made 15,792 in May, 2008, so that would confirm that they got off to a really lousy start. Over 7000 dealers in the USA alone and only 6017 cars at launch.
dumbplanning, particularly considering all the hype that the Mailbu was generating in the media. BTW, it looks like they still produced 3385 of the old turkeys in October/07.According to GM, Impala deliveries for May 2007 where 35,665. Impala deliveries for May 2008 were 23,803. That is a negative difference of 11,862. So 15,792 2008 Malibus minus the 11,862 fewer Impalas just illustrates that in the eyes of GM buyers the Malibu is the new Impala. They certainly aren't taking the Camry and Accord buyers.
http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/84/84530/sales_production/May08Deliveries.pdf
Anyways, I can understand why your sooooo not likeing the new Malibu
I don't have anything against it. It's a much better Impala no question.
it looks better (yes this is subjective but its pretty much a consensus)
What consensus is that? From ppl here that don't buy it.
and for 2008.5 it has a better 4cylinder driveline that makes more power and gets better fuel economy than the Camry.
Who says? All I know is that to get a 6 speed in their 4 cylinder it currently runs one $31,500 plus F&PDI. Good luck with that. I'll wait till Wing tests the afore-mentioned. My own opinion is that the 6 speed GM is using in the V6 won't work well with their 4.
June 23, 2008, 12:31:41 am I'm kind of curious how you got 11.5l/100km. That seems ridiculous. A 3.5 liter Impala is rated for 11 in the city...so how your Malibu does worse than that as an average seems weird. Did you go back in time to drive you grandpa to school, 5 miles in the snow up hill both ways or something?
June 23, 2008, 03:10:00 am Why wouldn't people cross shop the Malibu and the Impala? they overlap a decent amount price wise but the Malibu is an all new design and gets better fuel economy. If you really don't need the space, why not get the newer model with better fuel economy?
Impala ppl are simply switching to the Malibu. The numbers are amazing. The problem is that GM isn't netting much more market share. Let's face it, minus fleet sales the Impala is DOA with high gas prices.
So long as GM is selling EVERY malibu it makes it is doing just fine - even if it isn't taking every Accord and Camry owner.
There not taking a one, just other GM buyers. The Malibu is something GM should have built back in 2006 and is obviously better than their other stuff in that price range. Look what a stinker those Lacrosse Buicks were or whatever they are called in the USA. Now those buyers can get a Malibu.
hmmm 70 percent of Malibu buyers are buying 4cylinders.
NOW they are
Who says that the 2009 2.4/6speed auto gets better fuel economy and makes more power than the Camry 4cylinder powertrain? GM does:
That makes all the difference in the world.
PS this has been proven to you in the past, and it is SAD that you still don't have a clue, but the 6speed auto used with the 2.4 is NOT the same as the one used with the 3.6
It has
But why didn't GM have this "6 speed" already to go with the launch of the 4 cylinder Malibu
All we can do is wait and see if Wing gets a kick at the 6spd/4 banger however that could be a long wait.
June 23, 2008, 04:20:40 am
There is no reasonable range on dealer trades. It's simply based on the desire to sell a car. My associates will go to Ottawa for a dealer trade with a single trailer.
The GM website operates on rules. One of those rules is a maximum number of results returned on a particular search. Guess what? The maximum number is 25.
Sure you can say that now, but at launch and for the first few months the only units were loaded V6s when small dealers were lucky to get a one.
You're nuts, as most trolls are. The 12 Malibus my dealer had in December were made up of 2 V-6s and 10 4-cyls. Once again you're plling statements out of your arse.
I can't offer any evidence about all of these facts, but I can tell you I agree with Steve on this one. When the car first came out, the only one's on dealer lots here were loaded V6 with leather. There were absolutely no four bangers, and I didn't even see a cloth interior car until a month later. At any given time, there were no more than 3 of these on the lot.
It just now it seems that these car are starting to show up in decent numbers....and in various trims.
FWIW, although I'm no Chevy fan, I think this car is miles ahead of what it replaces. As Steve says, the 4 cylinder with leather and roof would be a really nice economical, safe car. But the $$ they ask for it is getting a bit up there. But I like the interior and the exterior is pretty darn good. I hope the long term quality is good on these. It's the shot in the arm that GM could use..
June 23, 2008, 04:40:26 am How did I know that any thread about the Malibu would spiral down into an ArticSteve-versus-somebody "my boring midsize sedan can beat up your boring midsize sedan" argument...
I mean seriously, why do people care exactly how many Malibus were made during the first 30 days of production and what upholstery material they had? Why has this turned into the debate of the century?
June 23, 2008, 05:50:27 am Mitlov, read your own sig! It is the same fan boy war without Barrie.
June 23, 2008, 08:15:31 am Maybe GM was attempting a first - to produce just enough vehicles to supply expected demand, rather than push as many cars as they could through the system into the dealers lots to beat Toyonda's sales numbers and wind up rebating millions of dollars in incentives 6 months from now?
Profitability over production - nothing wrong with stating you 'can't keep up with demand' on a new launch...
Victims of their own success to a degree? Be nice to see this be a first step in GM's curtailing overproduction line manufacturing.
June 23, 2008, 09:10:16 am Thinking Out Loud , are you suggesting or is it fact that sales figures are units delivered to the lot? I always thought it was units delivered to the end user.
June 23, 2008, 09:43:15 am Could be my misunderstanding of (all) the various figures presented.
I was postulating that, as was suggested earlier in the thread, that if they had problems/challenges getting product out the door to the network, that it could be a good thing if it was an honest, intentional, attempt in trying to reverse the domestics traditional overcapacity/overbuild/incentivize car launches.
Quickest way to get out of the incentive business is build what you can sell, I'd hazard.
June 23, 2008, 09:50:43 am
Impala ppl are simply switching to the Malibu. The numbers are amazing. The problem is that GM isn't netting much more market share. Let's face it, minus fleet sales the Impala is DOA with high gas prices.
So long as GM is selling EVERY malibu it makes it is doing just fine - even if it isn't taking every Accord and Camry owner.
There not taking a one, just other GM buyers. The Malibu is something GM should have built back in 2006 and is obviously better than their other stuff in that price range. Look what a stinker those Lacrosse Buicks were or whatever they are called in the USA. Now those buyers can get a Malibu.
hmmm 70 percent of Malibu buyers are buying 4cylinders.
NOW they are
Who says that the 2009 2.4/6speed auto gets better fuel economy and makes more power than the Camry 4cylinder powertrain? GM does:
That makes all the difference in the world.
PS this has been proven to you in the past, and it is SAD that you still don't have a clue, but the 6speed auto used with the 2.4 is NOT the same as the one used with the 3.6
It has
But why didn't GM have this "6 speed" already to go with the launch of the 4 cylinder Malibu
All we can do is wait and see if Wing gets a kick at the 6spd/4 banger however that could be a long wait.
Lets see - once again you offer NOTHING to back up anything you write.
apart from rrocket agreeing that he 'believes' there only loaded v6 models initially on lots you have nothing to offer as evidence. Go on - find some ha ha ha of course you can't - you never can.
'pics please' you keep asking for evidence yet have never offered anything at all to back up what you write, hmm because your WRONG? ha ha ha
Even if it were true does it really matter in the least? GM has sold them all - so obviously it didn't matter if every single one were a v6 ltz loaded with every option - people wanted them and bought them.
Volt? 2007? try 2010
Oh wait, GM will be chapter 11 by then. ha ha ha can't wait until 2009 is over and you once again are proven WRONG
As for the 4speed auto at launch, did it hurt fuel economy compared to the Camry's 5speed auto? you check the numbers and let the world know - Chev has better city by 1mpg and worse highway by 1mpg. Hmmmmm doesn't seem so bad.
You do realize that Toyota has launched afew vehicles very recently with 4speed autos as well, right? ha ha ha ha ha Me thinks you don't have a clue - and never offer anything to show otherwise.
Now with the 6speed auto it gets 22 city 33 highway - 1 better city and 2 better highway than the Camry while making more power and in a number of vehicles at many price points it will be all over the place - and everyone will offer more power and better fuel economy than the comparable Camry.
Just because YOU don't want to believe that the 6speed auto for the 2.4 and th 3.6 are different does not make it true. Again, if you can offer anything other than your proven-time-and-time-again WRONG statements otherwise provide it. Here is a hint - gmpowertrain.com has all the info you will ever need to understand how wrong you are.
I for one love the fact you haven't a cvlue and yet keep on coming back for more. Its sad, but fun!
June 23, 2008, 12:09:12 pm
June 23, 2008, 12:32:28 pm
Non-linear gas gauge aside, you didn't say what mix city/highway your driving was but 11.5L/100km seems pretty good to me for something that big with 250hp. For 2008 I've been averaging 11.4L/100km in 85/15 (Vancouver)city/highway with a modest I4.
June 23, 2008, 05:19:26 pm
Volt? 2007? try 2010
Actually, GM gave a timeline of 2010-2012 in their official press release. They had not committed to a specific date...or year for that matter. I only know this because I erroneously assumed (at one time) they were coming out in 2007 from the "Volt 2007 World Tour" or some similarly named advertising thing. It was then I looked for the press release, and saw the 2010-2012 dates.
And you quoted me saying "believes". I never said I believed anything. I said as fact, that the only cars on the lot when they came out were loaded V6 models. No doubt about it...at least where I live. Might be different where you live. Not sure that it matters...but you quoted me incorrectly. As least that was my experience here, in Windsor, home of the Domestics. One dealer even commented as such that he wished they had more 4 bangers given the rising fuel costs...But like I said earlier, they seemed to have ironed this out with more cars on the lots now. While we have never seen 25-30 cars, we often see 10-12 of them at any given time...
June 23, 2008, 08:23:47 pm James, I noticed in your blog section. You've driven almost all the major contenders in the mid-size category. Accord, Altima, Camry, Aura, Malibu, Sebring, Passat, G6, Fusion. You didn't write a review about Hyundai Sonata yet.
How would you rate them? basically asking for your opinion.
e.g.
Ergonomics/material quality.
Aesthetics/Style elements.
Driving style/comfort.
Seating space, comfort.
Engine/transmission response.
June 24, 2008, 10:52:28 am
Volt? 2007? try 2010
Actually, GM gave a timeline of 2010-2012 in their official press release. They had not committed to a specific date...or year for that matter. I only know this because I erroneously assumed (at one time) they were coming out in 2007 from the "Volt 2007 World Tour" or some similarly named advertising thing. It was then I looked for the press release, and saw the 2010-2012 dates.
And you quoted me saying "believes". I never said I believed anything. I said as fact, that the only cars on the lot when they came out were loaded V6 models. No doubt about it...at least where I live. Might be different where you live. Not sure that it matters...but you quoted me incorrectly. As least that was my experience here, in Windsor, home of the Domestics. One dealer even commented as such that he wished they had more 4 bangers given the rising fuel costs...But like I said earlier, they seemed to have ironed this out with more cars on the lots now. While we have never seen 25-30 cars, we often see 10-12 of them at any given time...
'believe' was written like this because you wrote the following:
I can't offer any evidence about all of these facts, but I can tell you I agree with Steve on this one
who can say with any certainty that those fully loaded v6 models you witnessed on the lot were in fact the only ones? could 4cylinder models have been sold and not even in the lot at that time?
I have no clue - but just because you only saw fully loaded ones doesn't mean there weren't others.
Either way, what does it matter? if GM had produced all fully loaded v6 malibus and sold them all initially.... isn't that a good thing?
June 28, 2008, 12:28:08 am
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