CD Article: 2006 Honda Civic sedan

[CD_Editor]

You may discuss our cover story of the day in this thread....
Test Drive:

Now in its eighth generation, the all-new Honda Civic is racking up awards: Motor Trend Car of the Year, and AJAC's Best New Economy Car. Assistant Editor Jil McIntosh drives the sedan and finds that the accolades are certainly well-deserved.      More...

[articsteve]

You might want to check this part of the review:

The new engine makes 140 hp, a substantial leap from the 110 hp generated by the 1.7-litre engine in the 2005 sedan.  Without researching to confirm I believe the 1.7 produced 115 and 127 HP depending on model.

Typo here:  Engine 1.7-litre inline 4, SOHC, 16 valves
Horsepower 140 @ 6300 rpm

Should read: 1.8 litre

[captain_ron]

115hp was the HP it produced PRIOR to SAE, thats why it went down to 110hp (THE HP THE CAR WAS ACTUALLY PRODUCING),  same with the RSX, went from 160hp to 155hp.

[articsteve]

115hp was the HP it produced PRIOR to SAE, thats why it went down to 110hp (THE HP THE CAR WAS ACTUALLY PRODUCING),  same with the RSX, went from 160hp to 155hp.

Gotta link for that number on the 2005 Honda 1.7 litre?


SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM 115 @ 6100
 115 @ 6100
 127 @ 6300
 127 @ 6300
 127 @ 6300
 100 @ 6100

reference: http://www.lotpro.com/cars/2005/honda/civic_sedan/techspecs/

[wing]

The article has been updated, Steve was correct.

[G0dspd]

The New Civic has an output of 100 hp at the wheels on a dyno ... I saw it with my own eyes.  Is there a smaller engine?

[mrthompson]

Output at the wheels is always lower than the advertised output (which is at the crank, or something like that)...

[Benhaze]

Honda (with BMW) was for me the benchmark for round analogic gauges since 1982. Not I'm not sure yet how much I like this new cluster though I don't hate it (to my surprise). Honda was slowly drifting toward Toyota "yarn" style and design but Honda is back! Now time to apply this new found creativity to the rest of the line. Which is a good thing considering Toyota is also showing new promising trends.

[84im]

A 40 hp loss seems a bit steep.  Isn't around 15 to 20% loss the norm? 

[munk]

The New Civic has an output of 100 hp at the wheels on a dyno ... I saw it with my own eyes.  Is there a smaller engine?

Not according to the vtec.net guys.

http://www.vtec.net/articles/article-image?image=415957/06ex_hp.gif

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=415957

You got a record of what your eyes saw.

[Shnak]

Is it the same horsepower at the fly wheel (like your links munk) than at the wheels?

[G0dspd]

It's on a french show from Quebec ... can't rememeber the name.  The goal of the test was to see how bigger wheels/mags affects the engine's performance and the "reference run" on the dyno was showing 100 hp.  I know that things like the temperature and the humidity can change the numbers ... but a 30 hp difference?

[wing]

Not all dynos are the same there are different types.  Dynos really are good to find out the differences between changing parameters running back to back tests.

[84im]

The best dyno is the seat of your pants.