CTC Review: 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon

[airbalancer]

I wonder if it has 5mph bumpers and kiddy seat fastening points.

Take that old design and replace the ancient gas engine with a small diesel and you have a winner for people with big gardens and long driveways. I'll have a bulldozer blade for snow clearing  with mine and a small trailer to take stuff to the dump.

Equally good:  add all the power take off points to a modern jeep.

most people use ATV's for garden work and snow clearing, in the country

[tpl]

I wonder if it has 5mph bumpers and kiddy seat fastening points.

Take that old design and replace the ancient gas engine with a small diesel and you have a winner for people with big gardens and long driveways. I'll have a bulldozer blade for snow clearing  with mine and a small trailer to take stuff to the dump.

Equally good:  add all the power take off points to a modern jeep.

most people use ATV's for garden work and snow clearing, in the country

And what can an ATV do that an old style, SMALL, jeep couldn't do... apart from roll over at the slightest provocation.

[wing]

I made my driveway 4-feet wider by flattening the snow banks with the Jeep

[airbalancer]

I wonder if it has 5mph bumpers and kiddy seat fastening points.

Take that old design and replace the ancient gas engine with a small diesel and you have a winner for people with big gardens and long driveways. I'll have a bulldozer blade for snow clearing  with mine and a small trailer to take stuff to the dump.

Equally good:  add all the power take off points to a modern jeep.

most people use ATV's for garden work and snow clearing, in the country

And what can an ATV do that an old style, SMALL, jeep couldn't do... apart from roll over at the slightest provocation.

So true, just stating an observation, you are still a city slicker, Gulph is still a big city 

[sailor723]

I wonder if it has 5mph bumpers and kiddy seat fastening points.

Take that old design and replace the ancient gas engine with a small diesel and you have a winner for people with big gardens and long driveways. I'll have a bulldozer blade for snow clearing  with mine and a small trailer to take stuff to the dump.

Equally good:  add all the power take off points to a modern jeep.

most people use ATV's for garden work and snow clearing, in the country

And what can an ATV do that an old style, SMALL, jeep couldn't do... apart from roll over at the slightest provocation.

As the former owner of an ex-RCAF 1952 Jeep I can tell you that it doesn't take a lot to roll an old style jeep if you get careless.

[safristi]

 ::)GULPH as in a BIG GUELPHQuencher...................poor tpl livin' inna lil 1,400 foot shaq wif a wee garage inna VILLAGE NO LESS!!!!

[airbalancer]

But how longer will Jeep be in Chrysler hands
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/chrysler-supposedly-in-talks-with-mandm-about-jeep-brand/#comments

[tpl]

::)GULPH as in a BIG GUELPHQuencher...................poor tpl livin' inna lil 1,400 foot shaq wif a wee garage inna VILLAGE NO LESS!!!!

With no snow blower 

[safristi]

I hear Amy Winehouse is free !!!! ...let it blow let it blow...

[PJungnitsch]

A links just for you
http://www.thecj2apage.com/brochure/willys-overland_cj2a_sales_brochure.htm
 http://www.thecj2apage.com/om16.html

Neat links! I always understood the small original jeep was pretty much a big ATV, and ironically 4WD ATV's are hugely popular on farms now for general work. Some people have even moved up to 'Gators'.

http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/GC/category/GC_UV.html

[Demosthenes X]

We've got a small Canadian Tire special ATV for general garden duty and hauling.  Comes in mighty handy at times.  No snow plow on it, though.  Not in Victoria... 

[Zombie]

Yup Chicks like Jeeps.

So do gay men as well. Jeeps are a man puller. 

Ummm I've never heard that before. You must have a man on the inside  

[PJungnitsch]

Click the link for a 1983 Jeep CJ-7 ad:

http://jalopnik.com/354680/its-like-riding-a-buffalo-only-bouncier-1983-jeep-cj+7?autoplay=true

You know what big-haired early-80s chicks really liked? No, we mean even more than cocaine. That's right, a macho dude who rides a buffalo to work! Thing is, sometimes you need a ride that doesn't leave bovine poop in the parking garage, and then there's the matter of getting Buffalo Crotch Scabies from bareback bison riding. That's when you go for the Jeep CJ, which is slightly more comfortable than the buffalo, yet nearly as macho.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

I bought a new YJ in '92 IIRC. I could cope with the very harsh ride and poor fuel economy. I hated the fact that it rusted around every hinge and seam in the two years that I had it, even though I hosed it down with Rust-Check once a year.

The then 22 year old Mrs T didn't care for the extra jiggling it's ride induced. On long drives, she'd make sure to wear her best sports bra.

We only kept it two years.

My brother bought one earlier this year. I couldn't believe the vast difference in ride quality over the old leaf spring versions. So far his Jeep seems to be holding up much better than mine.

[safristi]

  JEEP ers creepers......... .............

[mrthompson]

Titty-titty, bang-bang.   

(I know, I've used that line before.) 

[safristi]

Call in tha BOUNCERS..............this is gettin' OUTTA hand...

[Zoo]

I rented a "TJ" in Cozumel back in January while on vacation. The 6 speed manual was surprisingly smooth and easy to shift. I was very impressed overall.

Then I saw a barebones "X" base model Wrangler and a better optioned "unlimited" at the Toronto Car Show recently. I have not test driven a Wrangler to see how different it would drive.

If the 3.8L engine is anything like the one I had in a previous Grand Caravan that would be a plus in the Wrangler's favour. This engine was suprisingly frugal for its size and gave me no mechanical issues in the time I had the Grand Caravan. The trannie did die though and had to be rebuilt.

I'd love to rent a Wrangler for a week to see how it holds up for my commutes and trips. As some have suggested the bloom might come off the rose when living with such a purpose built vehicle day in and day out.

[Honda Owner]

I wonder if it has 5mph bumpers and kiddy seat fastening points.

I remember having to install child seat top tethers on a YJ and thinking, as a parent myself, how absolutely mad one would have to be to transport children in the back of one on city streets. Let's face facts, these things are death traps.

The V-6 is the same motor as the Grand Caravan. When it was introduced, the "purists" howled but the fact remains, few "purists" buy Jeeps. Most never go off road.


And their owners love them and I would say at least 50% are women. The are also not averse to plunking down the Visa card to keep up with the constant deluge of water and oil leaks. Made lots off of Jeeps in my day. Just Empty Every Pocket we used to say. People who can afford to buy and run them can afford the constant wrenching and sealing, too, heh heh.

And they still rust like crazy around hinges and seals. The seal where the windshield is the first to go and the bolts that hold it together have be drilled out to remove them. Eventually all the electrics under the dash will short out due the the leakage. Best of they are kept in a garage and only brought out on sunny summer days, as most of them are.

[mrthompson]

My manager owns a 2000 TJ.  The liftgate hinges corroded very badly and last year one hinge broke.  The stealership wanted an insane amount for OEM replacement hinges.  Luckily he sourced stainless steel hinges from Quadratec for about 1/3 the cost.