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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2009, 10:06:48 am »

If you want to spend 50 big one on a car- get 335. A lot more performance, a lot more smile per mile. Plus the 4 year maintenance is included and therefore free.
With those perfromance number this car simply does not make sense.
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2009, 10:22:50 am »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.

If 93 octane gas is readily available where you live, I think you'd be impressed with what a REVO Stage II chip could do for you.  On the old 200 horse, 207 lb-ft 2.0T, a Stage II chip would get you to 255 hp, 290 lb-ft.

http://www.revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=592

But now the 2.0T in the A4 makes 211 horsepower, 258 lb-ft.  Imagine where a Stage II chip would get you with that as your starting point.  (I assume that REVO will have a chip for the 211 horsepower engine soon, but I didn't see one on their page).
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2009, 12:38:27 pm »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.


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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2009, 12:57:21 pm »

I just wish Audi would stop putting those ridiculous lights on every model, they look OK on the R8, they look like christmas tree decorations on everything else...

Worse, to me.  They make the car look like a cheap streetwalker with too much eye makeup.

The lights look down right freaky on a dark county lane until you work out what the hell it is. Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2009, 03:47:56 pm »

So Snowy if I'm reading that right, you'd take a less powerful model with nicer interior trim?! Shame on you! Ha ha.
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2009, 04:00:00 pm »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.

If 93 octane gas is readily available where you live, I think you'd be impressed with what a REVO Stage II chip could do for you.  On the old 200 horse, 207 lb-ft 2.0T, a Stage II chip would get you to 255 hp, 290 lb-ft.

http://www.revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=592

But now the 2.0T in the A4 makes 211 horsepower, 258 lb-ft.  Imagine where a Stage II chip would get you with that as your starting point.  (I assume that REVO will have a chip for the 211 horsepower engine soon, but I didn't see one on their page).


Even with my WRX I tune for 91 due to some trips north where 93 is not available. Your mission should you chose to accept it is to me a way to get a 2010 A4 Avant to +/-270 HP...... I would put it on my short list.
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2009, 04:31:25 pm »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.

If 93 octane gas is readily available where you live, I think you'd be impressed with what a REVO Stage II chip could do for you.  On the old 200 horse, 207 lb-ft 2.0T, a Stage II chip would get you to 255 hp, 290 lb-ft.

http://www.revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=592

But now the 2.0T in the A4 makes 211 horsepower, 258 lb-ft.  Imagine where a Stage II chip would get you with that as your starting point.  (I assume that REVO will have a chip for the 211 horsepower engine soon, but I didn't see one on their page).


Even with my WRX I tune for 91 due to some trips north where 93 is not available. Your mission should you chose to accept it is to me a way to get a 2010 A4 Avant to +/-270 HP...... I would put it on my short list.
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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2009, 04:39:11 pm »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.



If 93 octane gas is readily available where you live, I think you'd be impressed with what a REVO Stage II chip could do for you.  On the old 200 horse, 207 lb-ft 2.0T, a Stage II chip would get you to 255 hp, 290 lb-ft.

http://www.revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=592

But now the 2.0T in the A4 makes 211 horsepower, 258 lb-ft.  Imagine where a Stage II chip would get you with that as your starting point.  (I assume that REVO will have a chip for the 211 horsepower engine soon, but I didn't see one on their page).


Even with my WRX I tune for 91 due to some trips north where 93 is not available. Your mission should you chose to accept it is to me a way to get a 2010 A4 Avant to +/-270 HP...... I would put it on my short list.
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And thinking outside hatch territory.  Shocked


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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2009, 04:52:53 pm »

A4 Avant for you it is.  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2009, 05:04:22 pm »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.

If 93 octane gas is readily available where you live, I think you'd be impressed with what a REVO Stage II chip could do for you.  On the old 200 horse, 207 lb-ft 2.0T, a Stage II chip would get you to 255 hp, 290 lb-ft.






http://www.revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=592

But now the 2.0T in the A4 makes 211 horsepower, 258 lb-ft.  Imagine where a Stage II chip would get you with that as your starting point.  (I assume that REVO will have a chip for the 211 horsepower engine soon, but I didn't see one on their page).


Even with my WRX I tune for 91 due to some trips north where 93 is not available. Your mission should you chose to accept it is to me a way to get a 2010 A4 Avant to +/-270 HP...... I would put it on my short list.
Yes Bob, I am pushing 50 and perhaps showing weakness  Tongue


Assuming a 2010 2.0T can be done the same way as a current one then APR can do it and more.  But it looks like a big job,  chip + bigger turbo etc. etc. for sure not for $2K.   
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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2009, 07:40:18 pm »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.


If 93 octane gas is readily available where you live, I think you'd be impressed with what a REVO Stage II chip could do for you.  On the old 200 horse, 207 lb-ft 2.0T, a Stage II chip would get you to 255 hp, 290 lb-ft.






http://www.revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=592

But now the 2.0T in the A4 makes 211 horsepower, 258 lb-ft.  Imagine where a Stage II chip would get you with that as your starting point.  (I assume that REVO will have a chip for the 211 horsepower engine soon, but I didn't see one on their page).


Even with my WRX I tune for 91 due to some trips north where 93 is not available. Your mission should you chose to accept it is to me a way to get a 2010 A4 Avant to +/-270 HP...... I would put it on my short list.
Yes Bob, I am pushing 50 and perhaps showing weakness  Tongue


Assuming a 2010 2.0T can be done the same way as a current one then APR can do it and more.  But it looks like a big job,  chip + bigger turbo etc. etc. for sure not for $2K.   


I’m not up on the Audi aftermarket but an ECU flash, Down Pipe, and Turbo Back should gain 50 HP? Not going down the bigger turbo route again....$$$$$$$
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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2009, 07:44:55 pm »

The ECU flash itself had ~50hp gains.. for the last 2.0T on 93.
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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2009, 08:58:50 pm »

I have always been a huge fan of the A4 when it comes to interior and exterior styling. I even got to drive Jeff’s shiny new one in weasing 1.8T trim Smiley .

With Audi making advancements in reliability I would like to revisit the A4 Avant as a possible option but I just wish there was an affordable 250 HP version. I’m not sure one can safely take a 2.0 to 280 HP which would not reach my 300 goal but the styling would make up the difference.


If 93 octane gas is readily available where you live, I think you'd be impressed with what a REVO Stage II chip could do for you.  On the old 200 horse, 207 lb-ft 2.0T, a Stage II chip would get you to 255 hp, 290 lb-ft.






http://www.revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=592

But now the 2.0T in the A4 makes 211 horsepower, 258 lb-ft.  Imagine where a Stage II chip would get you with that as your starting point.  (I assume that REVO will have a chip for the 211 horsepower engine soon, but I didn't see one on their page).


Even with my WRX I tune for 91 due to some trips north where 93 is not available. Your mission should you chose to accept it is to me a way to get a 2010 A4 Avant to +/-270 HP...... I would put it on my short list.
Yes Bob, I am pushing 50 and perhaps showing weakness  Tongue


Assuming a 2010 2.0T can be done the same way as a current one then APR can do it and more.  But it looks like a big job,  chip + bigger turbo etc. etc. for sure not for $2K.   


I’m not up on the Audi aftermarket but an ECU flash, Down Pipe, and Turbo Back should gain 50 HP? Not going down the bigger turbo route again....$$$$$$$


Apr claim 355 bhp with all that and the big turbo. >$5kUSD 
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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2009, 12:13:16 am »

Seriously James, you mention cupholders one more time in a review and I'm never reading one again.  Tongue
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2009, 03:41:40 am »

If you want to spend 50 big one on a car- get 335. A lot more performance, a lot more smile per mile. Plus the 4 year maintenance is included and therefore free.
With those perfromance number this car simply does not make sense.

A general rule of thumb for the German luxury-mainstream (i.e., not mass-market, not exotic) three:

Go BMW if you want performance first.  Go Mercedes if you want luxury first.  Go Audi if you want a compromise.  In this case, you'd get more room and I think a much nicer interior with the Audi, but the BMW unquestionably is the better driver's car.

The rule of thumb isn't ALWAYS true, but it seems to be true more often than not.
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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 05:37:08 pm »

I watched a test on Motoring TV on the A4 Avant on a break from the Masters….they were happy...good review
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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 06:18:21 pm »

I just wish Audi would stop putting those ridiculous lights on every model, they look OK on the R8, they look like christmas tree decorations on everything else...

Worse, to me.  They make the car look like a cheap streetwalker with too much eye makeup.

Well you know what they say it takes one to.... err... nevermind.   Shocked Lips Sealed Grin Kiss

I really like the LEDs.  They become part of Audi's brand character, and in terms of functionality, they seem to be more visible than normal DRLs.  When you see a car with these lights, you can automatically associate it with the Audi brand.  I think it's a good move for Audi. 

"Looks like a christmas tree"... indeed.  Coming from a guy who prefers bright orange clown cars.   Roll Eyes

I like the looks of the current generation A4s, but always seem to see them with little, ugly 17" (or are they 16"?) wheels on them which completely ruins the look of the car. 

The interior is awesome though (by what I see in the pictures).  Far better than the e90 3-series I think.

Snowman... you mowing your own fairways when you golf?
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2009, 07:43:03 pm »

Snowman... you mowing your own fairways when you golf?

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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2009, 02:31:34 am »

A G37x would be a great sub for this car. Cheaper, more power 328hp, probably more reliable too. If you want the "GERMAN" feel its a different story but if I had the money it would be a G37x sedan or a Cadillac CTS with DI and AWD. 
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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2009, 09:52:39 am »

Audi is dropping the 3.2 engine in the 2010 A4, A3 and TT:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/22/audi-dropping-3-2-liter-v6-from-2010-a3-a4-and-tt/

Just as well. The turbo offers more pep and fuel efficiency.
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