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« on: October 26, 2009, 09:53:01 pm »
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This week I am driving just one car, I am going to sample at least 14 vehicles and perhaps even more as I attend my first ever Testfest located in Niagara-on-the-lake Ontario.  What is Testfest exactly?  To summarize quickly: it is a week where all AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada) members that do regular test drives congregate with the new or substantially new vehicles and test them back-to-back in order to come up with the CCOTY (Canadian Car of The Year) awards.  More...
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 07:40:30 am »
"Prestige" eh? What a hard life you lead!
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 08:10:02 am »
No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"?  Huh  Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z?

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 08:14:28 am »
Is this going on right now?  Are there fences that the proletariat can peak through?  Perhaps I'll swing by and take a look.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 12:18:29 pm »
Niagara on the lake airport there is securiy but the cars are hitting the road and is on right now and all day weds as well.  The R8 is 190k amazing car!
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 12:38:10 pm »
Quote from: Jaeger on October 27, 2009, 08:10:02 am
No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"?  Huh  Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z?

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I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing?
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 01:09:07 pm »
Quote from: ovr50 on October 27, 2009, 12:38:10 pm
Quote from: Jaeger on October 27, 2009, 08:10:02 am
No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"?  Huh  Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z?

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I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing?

But the R8 is?
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 01:18:10 pm »
This is not a bloody Job. It is a week of fun. You so lucky to have this position.  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 01:21:44 pm »
Quote from: ovr50 on October 27, 2009, 12:38:10 pm
Quote from: Jaeger on October 27, 2009, 08:10:02 am
No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"?  Huh  Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z?

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I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing?

I seem to recall the new Z hitting the streets AFTER the Genesis coupe, but I could be wrong.  And if the 370Z doesn't qualify as "new or substantially redesigned" relative to the 350Z, I can't imagine what would.  New interior, new exterior, new transmissions, substantially revised engine and chassis... etc.

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 01:33:34 pm »
The point about the Z is valid, Hyundai presented the Sonata in 06 and won, and presented the car again in 09!! Thinker  The Altima has a new hood and bumper, I think it should be entered.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 04:39:53 pm »
Yonnnnn another boring day at the office.....

Wait what your testing which cars? I think I hate you more then ever.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 04:43:43 pm »
..BY WEdnesday this will be WING............................. Grin

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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009, 05:51:59 pm »
Quote from: Jaeger on October 27, 2009, 01:21:44 pm
Quote from: ovr50 on October 27, 2009, 12:38:10 pm
Quote from: Jaeger on October 27, 2009, 08:10:02 am
No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"?  Huh  Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z?

Jaeger

I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing?

I seem to recall the new Z hitting the streets AFTER the Genesis coupe, but I could be wrong.  And if the 370Z doesn't qualify as "new or substantially redesigned" relative to the 350Z, I can't imagine what would.  New interior, new exterior, new transmissions, substantially revised engine and chassis... etc.

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It seems like the 370Z competes in the Convertible category so perhaps the same car can only compete in one category regardless the body style.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 09:58:24 pm »
The official word from Nissan was that originally there were not enough convertibles entered so they decided to enter the 370z since it was new.  They then decided not to enter the 370z coupe since it was very similar as well as budget concerns (it is not cheap to enter cars).
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 10:53:43 pm »
Thanks Wing.  I can't say I applaud their choice in entering only the Z convertible, but it was theirs to make.

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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 09:54:42 am »
Great day-by-day accounts of what's happening. Well done, wish I were there too!

Anyone want to place their wagers on what they would like to win vs what they think will win? For some of them, my chose might change depending on the engine/trim the manufacturer choose to enter, which I don't know.

SMALL CAR (under $21k)
Hyundai Elantra Touring     
Kia Forte Koup     
Mazda3   
Want to win: Elantra Touring / Think will win: Elantra Touring

SMALL CAR (over $21k)
Honda Insight     
Kia Forte     
Kia Soul     
Mazda3 Sport     
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback     
Nissan Cube     
Volkswagen Golf   
Want to win: Golf / Think will win: Golf (if TDI), Mazda3 Sport (would have said Soul if entered in the under $21K category)

FAMILY CAR (under $30k)
Ford Fusion     
Subaru Legacy Sedan     
Toyota Prius     
Volkswagen Golf Wagon TDI
Want to win: Golf Wagon TDI / Think will win: tough between Legacy (value/AWD) and Prius (economy/hatch, slick redesign and improved driving dynamics). Will go Legacy. No Prius. Mmmmm, Legacy. Okay, final vote Prius... 

FAMILY CAR (over $30k)
Buick LaCrosse     
Ford Fusion Hybrid     
Ford Taurus     
Want to win: LaCrosse / Think will win: Fusion Hybrid or LaCrosse, will say LaCrosse (if CXS) because despite Ford's excellent hybrid system it's outclassed and undersized here. Taurus has a gi-normous trunk, but doesn't feel as spacious as expected inside nor that special which perhaps is not expected in the 'family' category.

LUXURY CAR (over $50k)
BMW 335d Sedan     
Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon     
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedan (E 350)   
Want to win: 335d / Think will win: 335d

PRESTIGE (over $75k)
Audi R8 5.2 FSI     
BMW 7 Series Sedan (750i)     
Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid     
Porsche Panamera   
Want to win: Panamera / Think will win: Panamera (although the efficiency of the S400 is noteable)

SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (under $50k)
Chevrolet Camaro     
Ford Taurus SHO     
Hyundai Genesis Coupe     
Mazdaspeed3     
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback Ralliart     
Volkswagen Golf GTI   
Want to win: Golf GTI / Think will win: MS3 (power, price, and versatility), runner up Genesis Coupe (if V6)

SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (over $50k)
Audi S4     
Jaguar XFR     
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe (E 550)   
Want to win: S4 / Think will win: XFR, although if price is factored high then S4

CONVERTIBLES
Audi A5 Cabriolet     
Lexus IS Convertible (IS350C)     
Nissan 370Z Roadster   
Want to win: A5 Cabrio / Think will win: A5 Cabrio (best all around)

SUV - CUV (under $35k)
Chevrolet Equinox     
Subaru Outback     
Toyota Venza   
Want to win: Venza (think the raised Camry concept is thoughtful and appealing) / Think will win: Equinox (fuel economy, value)

SUV - CUV ($35k-$60k)
Acura ZDX     
Audi Q5     
GMC Terrain     
Lexus RX 350     
Mercedes-Benz GLK350 4MATIC     
Volkswagen Touareg TDI Clean Diesel     
Volvo XC60   
Want to win: RX 350 / Think will win: XC60 (don't ask me why, but it keeps being applauded so I'm on the train)

SUV - CUV (over $60k)
Acura MDX     
Audi Q7 TDI     
Cadillac SRX     
Lexus RX450h     
Lincoln MKT   
Want to win: Q7 TDI / Think will win: RX 450h

BEST NEW TECHNOLOGY
Attention Assist  ??
Audi Drive Select   
City Safety 
MyKey 
Remote Touch 
Touch Tracer 
Think will win: City Safety

BEST NEW GREEN TECHNOLOGY
Beltless Atkinson-cycle Engine with Cooled Exhaust 
Next Generation Hybrid System and SmartGauge 
Plant-based Ecological Plastics 
S400 Hybrid with Lithium-ion Batteries 
Solar Panel Moonroof & Remote Air Conditioning
Think will win: S400 
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 12:48:12 pm »
SMALL CAR (under $21k)
Hyundai Elantra Touring     
Kia Forte Koup     
Mazda3   
Win: Elantra Touring

SMALL CAR (over $21k)
Honda Insight     
Kia Forte     
Kia Soul     
Mazda3 Sport     
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback     
Nissan Cube     
Volkswagen Golf   
Win: the Golf better win

FAMILY CAR (under $30k)
Ford Fusion     
Subaru Legacy Sedan     
Toyota Prius     
Volkswagen Golf Wagon TDI
Win: Golf Wagon TDI

FAMILY CAR (over $30k)
Buick LaCrosse     
Ford Fusion Hybrid     
Ford Taurus     
Win: Fusion Hybrid

LUXURY CAR (over $50k)
BMW 335d Sedan     
Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon     
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedan (E 350)   
Win: 335d

PRESTIGE (over $75k)
Audi R8 5.2 FSI     
BMW 7 Series Sedan (750i)     
Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid     
Porsche Panamera   
Win: R8/Panamera

PERFORMANCE (under $50k)
Chevrolet Camaro     
Ford Taurus SHO     
Hyundai Genesis Coupe     
Mazdaspeed3     
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback Ralliart     
Volkswagen Golf GTI   
Win: Camaro? This is gonna be tight.

SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (over $50k)
Audi S4     
Jaguar XFR     
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe (E 550)   
Win: S4

CONVERTIBLES
Audi A5 Cabriolet     
Lexus IS Convertible (IS350C)     
Nissan 370Z Roadster   
Win: A5

SUV - CUV (under $35k)
Chevrolet Equinox     
Subaru Outback     
Toyota Venza   
Win: Venza?

SUV - CUV ($35k-$60k)
Acura ZDX     
Audi Q5     
GMC Terrain     
Lexus RX 350     
Mercedes-Benz GLK350 4MATIC     
Volkswagen Touareg TDI Clean Diesel     
Volvo XC60   
Win: Touareg TDI or XC60 or Q5.

SUV - CUV (over $60k)
Acura MDX     
Audi Q7 TDI     
Cadillac SRX     
Lexus RX450h     
Lincoln MKT   
Win: Q7 TDI or 450h.

BEST NEW TECHNOLOGY
Attention Assist  ??
Audi Drive Select   
City Safety 
MyKey 
Remote Touch 
Touch Tracer 
Win: City Safety


BEST NEW GREEN TECHNOLOGY
Beltless Atkinson-cycle Engine with Cooled Exhaust 
Next Generation Hybrid System and SmartGauge 
Plant-based Ecological Plastics 
S400 Hybrid with Lithium-ion Batteries 
Solar Panel Moonroof & Remote Air Conditioning
Win: S400 by a mile
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2009, 04:01:41 pm »
vdk, just an FYI, nobody that I spoke liked the S400 -- I would be completely surprised if it wins.

I think the mazda3 is a shoe in for the small car under $21k... enough posts I'll write my blog Wink
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SMALL CAR (under $21k)
Hyundai Elantra Touring     
Kia Forte Koup     
Mazda3   
Win: Elantra Touring

SMALL CAR (over $21k)
Honda Insight     
Kia Forte     
Kia Soul     
Mazda3 Sport     
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback     
Nissan Cube     
Volkswagen Golf   
Win: Kia Soul

FAMILY CAR (under $30k)
Ford Fusion     
Subaru Legacy Sedan     
Toyota Prius     
Volkswagen Golf Wagon TDI
Win: Ford Fusion

FAMILY CAR (over $30k)
Buick LaCrosse     
Ford Fusion Hybrid     
Ford Taurus     
Win: Buick LaCrosse

LUXURY CAR (over $50k)
BMW 335d Sedan     
Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon     
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedan (E 350)   
Win: 335d

PRESTIGE (over $75k)
Audi R8 5.2 FSI     
BMW 7 Series Sedan (750i)     
Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid     
Porsche Panamera   
Win: R8/Panamera

PERFORMANCE (under $50k)
Chevrolet Camaro     
Ford Taurus SHO     
Hyundai Genesis Coupe     
Mazdaspeed3     
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback Ralliart     
Volkswagen Golf GTI   
Win: Hyundai Genesis Coupe

SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (over $50k)
Audi S4     
Jaguar XFR     
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe (E 550)   
Win: S4

CONVERTIBLES
Audi A5 Cabriolet     
Lexus IS Convertible (IS350C)     
Nissan 370Z Roadster   
Win: Nissan 370Z Roadster

SUV - CUV (under $35k)
Chevrolet Equinox     
Subaru Outback     
Toyota Venza   
Win: Subaru Outback

SUV - CUV ($35k-$60k)
Acura ZDX     
Audi Q5     
GMC Terrain     
Lexus RX 350     
Mercedes-Benz GLK350 4MATIC     
Volkswagen Touareg TDI Clean Diesel     
Volvo XC60   
Win: Volvo XC60

SUV - CUV (over $60k)
Acura MDX     
Audi Q7 TDI     
Cadillac SRX     
Lexus RX450h     
Lincoln MKT   
Win: Q7 TDI

BEST NEW TECHNOLOGY
Attention Assist  ??
Audi Drive Select   
City Safety 
MyKey 
Remote Touch 
Touch Tracer 
Win:


BEST NEW GREEN TECHNOLOGY
Beltless Atkinson-cycle Engine with Cooled Exhaust 
Next Generation Hybrid System and SmartGauge 
Plant-based Ecological Plastics 
S400 Hybrid with Lithium-ion Batteries 
Solar Panel Moonroof & Remote Air Conditioning
Win:
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